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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.mamablogga.com/dear-other-mothers/comment-page-1/#comment-4979</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an awfully big coincidence that three other mothers in the waiting room could have been suffering from PPD.  Some of them did only have one child with them and still couldn&#039;t manage to watch him.  This isn&#039;t targeted at a single mother; that&#039;s forgivable.  We all have off days, even without psychosis.

And for most of these situations, I would have had to cross the room to point out their children&#039;s abuse of my son, when they were considerably closer.  Is that Christ-like or is it publicly humiliating?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an awfully big coincidence that three other mothers in the waiting room could have been suffering from PPD.  Some of them did only have one child with them and still couldn&#8217;t manage to watch him.  This isn&#8217;t targeted at a single mother; that&#8217;s forgivable.  We all have off days, even without psychosis.</p>
<p>And for most of these situations, I would have had to cross the room to point out their children&#8217;s abuse of my son, when they were considerably closer.  Is that Christ-like or is it publicly humiliating?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just have to play the devil&#039;s advocate here. When I had one child, I felt the same way you did. Then I had my second and suffered a deep depression. I WAS that mom in the waiting room, no matter how hard I tried to convince myself that I wasn&#039;t. Honestly, you just never know the other side of the story. Maybe she was experiencing post-partum depression that went unnoticed for years (because I did, and because I showed up in the doctor&#039;s office with all my make-up on, they never picked up on it and assumed that I needed to take vitamins. Yeah, right). I finally went to another doctor (a female) who spent 45 minutes with me. She dug deep and through a series of blood tests found that I was deeply depressed and had some undiaganosed health issues to boot! (Low progesterone, low B-12, etc.). 

Anyways, I just wanted to mention this. I know how easy it is to judge other people&#039;s lack of parenting. However the more Christ-like way would be to offer to help the mother by saying something like, &quot;I&#039;m noticing that your little one is doing x, would you like me to help him?&quot; Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just have to play the devil&#8217;s advocate here. When I had one child, I felt the same way you did. Then I had my second and suffered a deep depression. I WAS that mom in the waiting room, no matter how hard I tried to convince myself that I wasn&#8217;t. Honestly, you just never know the other side of the story. Maybe she was experiencing post-partum depression that went unnoticed for years (because I did, and because I showed up in the doctor&#8217;s office with all my make-up on, they never picked up on it and assumed that I needed to take vitamins. Yeah, right). I finally went to another doctor (a female) who spent 45 minutes with me. She dug deep and through a series of blood tests found that I was deeply depressed and had some undiaganosed health issues to boot! (Low progesterone, low B-12, etc.). </p>
<p>Anyways, I just wanted to mention this. I know how easy it is to judge other people&#8217;s lack of parenting. However the more Christ-like way would be to offer to help the mother by saying something like, &#8220;I&#8217;m noticing that your little one is doing x, would you like me to help him?&#8221; Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It drives me nuts when other kids try to boss mine around for things they weren&#039;t going to do wrong in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It drives me nuts when other kids try to boss mine around for things they weren&#8217;t going to do wrong in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Mommy Zabs</title>
		<link>http://www.mamablogga.com/dear-other-mothers/comment-page-1/#comment-4871</link>
		<dc:creator>Mommy Zabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it drives me crazy when i&#039;m in a position like that.  And i have been there.  I&#039;m sorry you had to go through that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it drives me crazy when i&#8217;m in a position like that.  And i have been there.  I&#8217;m sorry you had to go through that.</p>
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		<title>By: killlashandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>killlashandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;m glad the actual visit went well. However, I have to agree waiting rooms are always such a trial.  It&#039;s so hard to keep toddlers entertained for the always too long wait for their name to be called.  I totally feel your rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m glad the actual visit went well. However, I have to agree waiting rooms are always such a trial.  It&#8217;s so hard to keep toddlers entertained for the always too long wait for their name to be called.  I totally feel your rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.mamablogga.com/dear-other-mothers/comment-page-1/#comment-4860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Becky&#8212;Thank you for your honesty and your comments (and thank you for being patient with my impatience).  I worry about the same thing because I do give my son a long &quot;leash&quot; usually (and if he does misbehave, I feel as though I often overreact).  But I also worry that many of us parents don&#039;t even realize how oblivious we are.  Honestly, I hope that these women are like you and that they are able to find help as you did.

Thank you again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Becky&mdash;Thank you for your honesty and your comments (and thank you for being patient with my impatience).  I worry about the same thing because I do give my son a long &#8220;leash&#8221; usually (and if he does misbehave, I feel as though I often overreact).  But I also worry that many of us parents don&#8217;t even realize how oblivious we are.  Honestly, I hope that these women are like you and that they are able to find help as you did.</p>
<p>Thank you again!</p>
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		<title>By: Twisted Cinderella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twisted Cinderella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain.  I have even experienced things similar to this in our neighbourhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain.  I have even experienced things similar to this in our neighbourhood.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Best Blogs - Jen&#8217;s Blog Roundup Part 2 &#171; Jen&#8217;s Genuine Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at MommaBlogga has a Letter to Mothers in the Waiting Room at the Doctor&#8217;s Office.  Luckily, we have not had this experience at our doctor&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.mamablogga.com/dear-other-mothers/comment-page-1/#comment-4849</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could echo each of your statments...that my boys would never do something like that to another child. That I have modeled approprite behavior for them. That they always know how to be polite in a public place.

I think my kids are getting there, though. And what I mean to say is, I think *I&#039;m* getting there. But I have to say I was the zoning mom for the first few years of my parenting. I was the parent who smiled benignly at my ill-behaved children while other moms glared and had to handle the situation for me.

Why?

A couple of reasons. First, no one taught me the rules of parenting. No one taught me the rules of toddler social skills or how to impart them. No one explained to me what&#039;s okay and what&#039;s not okay.

Secondly, I was just plain embarrassed. I thought I couldn&#039;t handle my children. My children handled me. And I was ashamed of that. I dealt with my shame by hiding, by avoiding, by doing nothing. And I was constantly aware of moms around me judging my (lack of) parenting and scorning my (actually innocent) children, who weren&#039;t deliberately vindictive. Just ignorant.

Then a dear friend of mine who had been a long-time daycare worker came for a four-day visit. Oh, how she clenched her jaw. Her tongue was as raw as hamburger because she bit it so hard. She didn&#039;t feel it was her place to interfere, and she wanted to encourage and honor my efforts. 

But behind my shame, behind my doing nothing, behind my lack of toddler skill, I wanted so badly to change. I wanted my kids to stop embarrassing me in the pediatric waiting room. I wanted more than anything for them to grow up well-liked in society. I wanted the more savvy moms with better-behaved kids to see me as an equal rather than as an opponent. I longed desperately for that. I just didn&#039;t know how to get there.

So I asked my friend for help. After two days of observing my floundering efforts, she gladly agreed. Then, with all the angelic presence of the Super Nanny, she swooped in and changed everything. Most importantly, she changed my mind. 

She explained to me that I was the boss of my children, and that it was okay for me to boss them. She showed me how my kids wer manipulating me and gave me tools to put a stop to it. She dragged us all to the zoo so we&#039;d have a public place to practice, where for the first time, despite my great trepidation, I was firm with my son in public. And then she showed me how to respond when he, not appreciating my efforts at all, hit me.

Most importantly, she helped me to understand that leaving my children to their own devices not only made life difficult for everyone else, but it was a diservice to my children, who needed to learn what I knew was right, and what was my responsibility to teach them. 

After my friend&#039;s visit, everything changed. It took a while, but I am now much more comfortable in my Mommy Skin, whether in public or private.

But when I see rude children with inattentive moms, or when I see neglected children with zoning moms, I don&#039;t feel angry toward them. My eyes fill with tears because I&#039;ve been where they are. I want to hug them. I want to cry with them. I want to give them the glorious good news that there&#039;s a better way. I want to help.

Yes, their parenting skills are deplorable. Yes, their inaction is inexcusible. But I bet underneath all of that, their hearts are breaking, just like mine was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could echo each of your statments&#8230;that my boys would never do something like that to another child. That I have modeled approprite behavior for them. That they always know how to be polite in a public place.</p>
<p>I think my kids are getting there, though. And what I mean to say is, I think *I&#8217;m* getting there. But I have to say I was the zoning mom for the first few years of my parenting. I was the parent who smiled benignly at my ill-behaved children while other moms glared and had to handle the situation for me.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>A couple of reasons. First, no one taught me the rules of parenting. No one taught me the rules of toddler social skills or how to impart them. No one explained to me what&#8217;s okay and what&#8217;s not okay.</p>
<p>Secondly, I was just plain embarrassed. I thought I couldn&#8217;t handle my children. My children handled me. And I was ashamed of that. I dealt with my shame by hiding, by avoiding, by doing nothing. And I was constantly aware of moms around me judging my (lack of) parenting and scorning my (actually innocent) children, who weren&#8217;t deliberately vindictive. Just ignorant.</p>
<p>Then a dear friend of mine who had been a long-time daycare worker came for a four-day visit. Oh, how she clenched her jaw. Her tongue was as raw as hamburger because she bit it so hard. She didn&#8217;t feel it was her place to interfere, and she wanted to encourage and honor my efforts. </p>
<p>But behind my shame, behind my doing nothing, behind my lack of toddler skill, I wanted so badly to change. I wanted my kids to stop embarrassing me in the pediatric waiting room. I wanted more than anything for them to grow up well-liked in society. I wanted the more savvy moms with better-behaved kids to see me as an equal rather than as an opponent. I longed desperately for that. I just didn&#8217;t know how to get there.</p>
<p>So I asked my friend for help. After two days of observing my floundering efforts, she gladly agreed. Then, with all the angelic presence of the Super Nanny, she swooped in and changed everything. Most importantly, she changed my mind. </p>
<p>She explained to me that I was the boss of my children, and that it was okay for me to boss them. She showed me how my kids wer manipulating me and gave me tools to put a stop to it. She dragged us all to the zoo so we&#8217;d have a public place to practice, where for the first time, despite my great trepidation, I was firm with my son in public. And then she showed me how to respond when he, not appreciating my efforts at all, hit me.</p>
<p>Most importantly, she helped me to understand that leaving my children to their own devices not only made life difficult for everyone else, but it was a diservice to my children, who needed to learn what I knew was right, and what was my responsibility to teach them. </p>
<p>After my friend&#8217;s visit, everything changed. It took a while, but I am now much more comfortable in my Mommy Skin, whether in public or private.</p>
<p>But when I see rude children with inattentive moms, or when I see neglected children with zoning moms, I don&#8217;t feel angry toward them. My eyes fill with tears because I&#8217;ve been where they are. I want to hug them. I want to cry with them. I want to give them the glorious good news that there&#8217;s a better way. I want to help.</p>
<p>Yes, their parenting skills are deplorable. Yes, their inaction is inexcusible. But I bet underneath all of that, their hearts are breaking, just like mine was.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie @ The Surrendered Scribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie @ The Surrendered Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a similar situation at a McDonalds playland that upset me so I blogged about it.  It is getting harder and harder to go anywhere without episodes like what you mention.  Here is a link to the post I did--I&#039;m not saying I handled it perfect but the police weren&#039;t called, ha ha!

http://thesurrenderedscribe.blogspot.com/2007/10/im-only-human-my-circle-of-hell.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar situation at a McDonalds playland that upset me so I blogged about it.  It is getting harder and harder to go anywhere without episodes like what you mention.  Here is a link to the post I did&#8211;I&#8217;m not saying I handled it perfect but the police weren&#8217;t called, ha ha!</p>
<p><a href="http://thesurrenderedscribe.blogspot.com/2007/10/im-only-human-my-circle-of-hell.html" rel="nofollow">http://thesurrenderedscribe.blogspot.com/2007/10/im-only-human-my-circle-of-hell.html</a></p>
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